Tuesday, 24 June 2008
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My experience with a extremely stupid but scornful person!!
A few days ago, I start a history discussion on Bloody Mary vs. Elizabeth on a discussion board.
The topic was set up by a person, with the title:
安妮博琳时我在读欧洲是中所见过得最无耻的情妇 ,
Anne Boleyn is the most shameless mistress I have ever read in European history.
As Anne Boleyn's fan, I start a debate with her, my language remain polite and respectful, but the comment I received were totally opposite. Here are the funny dialogues I have with that person (I selected it out). He was so impolite that I must tell all of u about it.
My comment:
Elizabeth's stepmother, Catherine Parr's new husband, Thomas Seymour, often sexually abused her when she
stayed with her. He would unlock her chamber door and kiss her cheek in the morning and slapped her buttocks,
Elizabeth was helpless in the matter and could do nothing. When her stepfather was accused of treason, she was
involved and was judged, and she escaped a narrow death.
That person: 你最贻笑大方的地方，对其有染是“继父”的弟弟，而非“继父”本人，她和这个所谓的“叔叔”即便有什么事，也完全不构成乱伦，欧洲王室比这更乱的婚姻比比皆是。
Me: ?? Is rape acceptable ( I think)(what!!! Elizabeth was indeed raped by her stepfather, unless history was
being rewrote)
My reply :
1. According to the famous historicans, ELizabeth's stepmother, Catherine Parr, has married Thomas Seymour. And Elizabeth was sexually abused by Thomas Seymour, but not the brother of Thomas Seymour.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=u2G6fq3EADM ( My evidence)That person: 1.根据维基百科，以及众多历史书的记载，曾经“追求”过伊丽莎白的是是“继父”的弟弟，而非“继父”本人，她和这个所谓的“叔叔”即便有什么事，也完全不构成乱伦，欧洲王室比这更乱的婚姻比比皆是。
Me: (Even feel stranger, I decided to check Wikipedia and found out he was wrong)
My reply:
"Princess Elizabeth, Catherine Parr's ward, had gone to live with her stepmother in Chelsea after
Henry VIII's death. Thomas, therefore, acquired the guardianship of Elizabeth and also of Lady
Jane Grey, another young member of the household. The overly-ambitious Thomas started to make advances toward Elizabeth, sneaking into 'the Lady Elizabeth's chamber
before she was ready, and sometimes before she did rise; and if she were up he would bid her good morrow
and ask how she did, and strike her upon the back or on the buttocks familiarly....'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Seymour%2C_1st_Baron_Seymour_of_Sudeley
I don't know whether it is the difference in languages, but the truth is, Elizabeth was violated by her stepfather,Thomas Seymour.
His later reply attack me on other subjects, and avoid answering this statement. (Perhaps he feel shameful)
My reply: I just hope your misunderstanding about Thomas Seymour can be clarify.
His reply: 我并没有同意你关于“继父”的观点，因为在英国本地，我看过的历史书指出少年时和伊丽莎白有过关系的并非“继父”，而是“叔叔”。(huh? what history books do you read?)My reply:
The book I read, "The children of Henry VIII" by Alison Weir, state that the one who violated Elizabeth in her
teenagehood was her stepfather, Thomas Seymour. I buy that book from Leeds Castle with 8.99 pounds. What
books you have read to tell that it's the uncle? Please give evidence to prove. Oh, also, the book "Innocent Traitor"
once mentioned that too.
The video by David Starkey is also one evidence.He didn't reply again..... perhaps too shameful, because he discovered he was wronged and put on "green hat"
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My new agurment:
Mary only reign for 5 years, but Elizabeth and her father definitely reign for more than that. Elizabeth reign for 45
years. And many culture, like the literature of shakespeare, were rising in Elizabeth's reign, she made England into
a Golden age. What are Mary, nothing, just burning protestants and war, which make England lost Calais to
France, and she lied to English, saying that England will stay protestant to gain their support. But later start her
killing.
His reply:
伊丽莎白继位的时候才25岁，哪来的45年？脑子又进水了？ (hahahahahahah, stupid guy)
I say Elizabeth ruled for 45 years, not the age she get the crown. Elizabeth was queen from 1558 to 1603
1603-1558=45 years. I am correct, her english need to be improved,
My reply:
From my previous message, I say Elizabeth reign "for" 45 years, from 1558 to 1603, if you take away 1558 from1603, the answer will be 45 years, no mistake. Check wikipedia. "Reign" means the time she ruled, not the age
she get the crown. check dictionary. Elizabeth was born in 1536, but she reigned for 45 years from 25 years old
to her death in 1603. (45 years)
My brain has no problem, thank you.Also, what about the "Thomas Seymour" thing? Can you give me answers? Or do you avoid it for good reasons?
From the example in Elizabeth's reign and Thomas Seymour, I suggest you to ask me to clarify my points beforecarelessly misunderstand my meaning and question my opinions and evidence.
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You may wonder why I hate this person so much, becaue she call me a "WHOR*", and Anne too.
Why did a history discussion get turned into like this? Such a stupid and shameless guy, I hope I will never see this person again.
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